Please update for Thunderbird 115

[gjf]

Today Thunderbird 115 was released and the addon was disabled as outdated.

Please update it.

In fact I just changed the manifest in latest release - and it seems working - but who knows...
manually_sort_folders-2.3.0-tb.zip

[schneeschmelze]

I second this request.

[wiltet]

ditto...

Yes, it would be very nice to use this addon in future.

[Wildvirus]

I support this requirement as well

[itagagaki]

I read an online article that said that folders can be reordered in Supernova, is that misinformation?

[Wildvirus]

You're right. I tested it on the mac- and windows-client. If you are in the account settings you can use drag & drop

[tidebre67]

as far as i can see only partly correct. you can sort the accounts but not folders.

[tidebre67]

Today Thunderbird 115 was released and the addon was disabled as outdated.

Please update it.

In fact I just changed the manifest in latest release - and it seems working - but who knows... manually_sort_folders-2.3.0-tb.zip

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@gjf
your manifest change accepted by TB115, accounts can be sorted but not closed and folders can not be changed.

[gjf]

@tidebre67 As I told - it's just a quick trick to make it working.
Of course the job should be done by author, not me.

[schneeschmelze]

as far as i can see only partly correct. you can sort the accounts but not folders.

That's right. I tested TB115 last night, and then downgraded to version 102 again.

[tidebre67]

@gjf
you are right. my idea was only to mention status.
@itagagaki-san , guess all would be glad if you can make it work again.

[itagagaki]

I had assumed that Thunderbird's redesigned user interface would allow folder reordering as a matter of course. I don't understand why they don't allow it forever.

Aside from that, the UI code has been rewritten in 115, so I'll have to investigate whether this traditional add-on mechanism can be applied in the same way. It will take some time to analyze.

[Wildvirus]

as far as i can see only partly correct. you can sort the accounts but not folders.

You're right, sorry. I only used the sorting of the accounts, not the sorting of the folders. Therefore I did not notice it

[v3DJG6GL]

I had assumed that Thunderbird's redesigned user interface would allow folder reordering as a matter of course. I don't understand why they don't allow it forever.

I just saw that there was a blog post last summer explaining how to sort folders manually.
At first I thought, "wow, they finally managed to support this basic feature natively!"
But no, they only explained how to do it with this plugin.
https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/video-tip-how-to-manually-sort-all-your-thunderbird-folders/#c

They are probably thinking, "Well, there is a plugin for that, so we don't need to implement that feature".

Anyway, thanks for your continuous support!

[itagagaki]

I did a little analysis and found out that Supernova always sorts folders alphabetically. All efforts of the add-ons will be flushed down.

Thunderbird is an open source project, so there may be a way to submit improvements that would prevent this and allow to replace the folder reordering method. But I think I would rather submit a modification that allows Thunderbird to sort folders itself than do that.

But it's not easy either way...

[protz]

Thanks Itagaki for chiming in. I agree that adding addon support in Thunderbird SuperNova for this functionality would probably take as much effort as submitting a patch to fix the issue in Thunderbird proper.

For the record, there was a plan that I outlined here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1606664, with some thoughts about how to implement it "properly" in Thunderbird. But I don't know whether it's worth investing time and effort when the UI is being significantly overhauled.

One question that I have is: is SuperNova still using the XUL tree widget? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193314 was closed years ago on the basis that the XUL tree is going to be phased away anyhow, meaning the bug should be fixed as part of a potential folder pane rewrite. I don't know if that rewrite is on the horizon, has been done already, and/or whether sorting folders is part of the plan there.

I also don't know how to convey the importance of sorting folders to the Thunderbird team. My previous attempt at improving things year ago for addons was here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1359410 and then someone decided that sorting accounts was important enough to become a built-in functionality. But I don't know why the same decision was not made for folders. I'll send out a couple emails to find out. Thanks!